Sign Up for HSBI if You Believe in Hive

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Last year I wrote a post summarizing HSBI, what it is, what it does, and how to use it. That post is still entirely accurate, so go read it.

@freecompliments also recently wrote a great post on the matter. He goes into the inner workings much more than my post at the top did, so if you are curious about the details then his post is very recommended reading.

I've been participating in HSBI since the Steemit days. I want to say I joined the program as soon as @josephsavage started it way back when, but it might have taken me a while before I noticed the program.

It's not a program to invest in if you want to get rich fast. In his post, Freecompliments comes up with an APR of around 12.2%. That's pretty close to what I get from tracking my votes from the service: I show 14.562% since the very beginning and 14.449% from the last 6 months. An amazing rate when compared to a US savings account (astronomically amazing when compared to my Japanese savings account, which only gives an interest of less than 0.1%), but around average or even less when compared to some of the other offerings in the crypto space.

Be Kind

What attracted me to HSBI and what still attracts me to HSBI is the kindness aspect. In order to benefit from HSBI, you have to sponsor someone or someone has to sponsor you. Yes of course there are ways to game this system and I'm sure some people do, but the majority are going to run up against this central tenet of the system: the creation of the asset is not derived from taking but from giving. I love that.

Everyone wants money. I'm sure people will argue about the motives of people, but I always go under the assumption that people are basically good, but that the fear of not being able to survive throws a wrench into our goodwill, making us all greedy to some extent, as we chase after money in an attempt to alleviate this fear of not being able to survive. HSBI brilliantly turns this greediness on its head and uses it to make an act of kindness. You want some HSBI? Then spread joy and give some away to others. To me this is the greatest fact of the program, that it promotes kindness. This is Joseph's greatest success of the project, that he has figured out how to encourage kindness, perhaps by appealing to or leveraging greed.

This alone is why I love HSBI and why I am constantly trying to promote it by giving it away to people.

A Benefit to Hive

One other thing about HSBI I want to discuss.

In the early days of the project, many orcas and whales came out against it and started downvoting posts that benefitted from it. I know some today still hold this negative view, though the downvoting of the past is no longer with us.

I never really understood the reasoning behind this, as I see HSBI as a tremendous investment in Hive. The main argument as I remember it and still see it is that HSBI is considered vote buying, which was long ago deemed verboten on Hive (though some, like @silverstackeruk, disagree with that idea). If someone were to solely buy HSBI for themselves, I might understand that argument, but, as mentioned above, it’s as much about giving as it is about receiving.

Also, investing in HSBI is a huge investment in Hive itself. True it isn't directly buying and staking HIVE, which is what many of the larger investors are looking for, but it is committing to Hive nonetheless. In order to get those HSBI votes, you must post. Yes, some will shitpost. As I said above, some percentage of people will always seek to game the system, but these shitposts tend to be downvoted anyways for reasons other than HSBI, so it doesn’t really provide any benefit to these people. The majority, at any rate, will write regular blog posts which is exactly what those of us invested in Hive should want to see. Hive is a blogging platform: we want to see it being used that way. The HSBI upvote will encourage them to stay and write more by rewarding them. It will therefore, keep them active on Hive. This is win-win.

Anyway, like I said, I think the kindness angle of HSBI is the greatest part of it and is why I am such a huge proponent of it, but the Hive investment and beneficial aspect is definitely an important part.

And, if you've made it this far, all good comments that show they actually read what I wrote will get some amount of HSBI from me. Have at it :)

Hi there! David is an American teacher and translator lost in Japan, trying to capture the beauty of this country one photo at a time and searching for the perfect haiku. He blogs here and at laspina.org. Write him on Mastodon.

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It is a very long game, I transferred all my STEEM SBI into HIVE at the fork and regret absolutely nothing. It keeps me coming back to the platform, not the for the ROI, but because whatever I commit to the HIVE blockchain is pretty likely to outlast my time on the planet.

Totally agree!

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I’ve long thought it was a great tool for retention in platform as well.

Right on!

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Great take on the kindness aspect, and fully agree. I have a few shares as well, some (most?) of them coming from the Steemit era; though I confess it's been a long time since I read about the project. I remember Joseph (and his wife also) posted a lot more frequently, which also gave HSBI more visibility. Thanks for the reminder it still exists! !BBH

Glad I could remind you about it. Now go and start using it again!

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Now go and start using it again!

Done ;)

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Thanks!

My pleasure; good deeds should be multiplied, so it was a perfect way to refresh my HSBI awareness. ;) !BEER


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HSBI has always been a great project for people to sponsor others, providing value with quality content.

I ran a curation series for some time for the purpose of, finding and curating these quality posters or people making some effort and enjoying it, by sponsoring multiple HSBI so they get the long term votes for little bits at a time since it is a longer term investment.

Almost everyone loves and wants more money, especially when times are tough but the ones showing they care about Hive and post the good stuff often enough, deserve to be rewarded more!

I ran a curation series for some time for the purpose of, finding and curating these quality posters or people making some effort and enjoying it, by sponsoring multiple HSBI so they get the long term votes for little bits at a time since it is a longer term investment.

I love the effort! I've thought about doing similar before, but I just don't have the time to head a big curation project. I do send shares out randomly to posts I do come across, though.

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Thanks mate!
It was actually a big project to do, by the time you look through posts and find people to choose each week.. but rewarding as well and worth it, so if you can work out a way to do it efficiently and make it work for you, then you should look into it. 😁

Sending them out randomly works too anyway.

I've always been a fan of the service. I like being able to help other accounts get some consistent rewards.

That is the best part of it, for sure, helping others.

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It was the sharing of the benefits and the altruism involved which convinced me it was more than a simple vote-buying scheme when it first started. Since then, I've come to understand its also a show of one's long-term commitment to Hive. Because of the given reasons, the APR and length of time to recoup the investment pale into insignificance.

Glad to see HSBI still going after all these years and good to say it is still being talked about.

Best wishes and have a great day :-)

You too!

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That is what I really like about HSBI is that you are helping out other people. The ROI is a long game strategy, by now you must have more than profited from the ones you got way back in the Steemit days!
!BBH

I don't think I'm at ROI yet. Like you said, it's a long game. But I just enjoy helping others, and that upvote I get isn't bad incentive either.

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Thanks! I appreciate it!
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That blog comes to the right time! I know the HSBI project a long time ago, but never unterstood the system of HSBI. The last weeks I had some time for research and now I know a little bit more about HSBI. But there are still some questions for me. Maybe I can ask you:

  1. I think you can’t get a „refund“ if you don‘t want to participate in HSBI anymore or the voting service isn‘t just working anymore. Once sent your Hive to @steembasicincome to sponsor another account you can’t get them back, right?

  2. Three ways to get HSBI. Sponsor people, get sponsored by people and delegate HP to @steembasicincome, right?

  3. Is there another benefit for delegating HP to @steembasicincome than just the Bonus units? Something like when delegating to @ecency and get daily curation reward share?

  4. What happens with the Hive sent to @steembasicincome when I sponsor another account? Powered Up? Sold?

  5. When I sponsor another account and decide after a longer time I want to change these sponsored HSBI to another account, this is not possible right?

Sorry for that many questions, but maybe you can help me anyway.

Thanks a million in advance! ☺️

Go read the freecompliments post that I link to at the beginning of my post. It answers all your questions. But briefly:

  1. Not directly, but you can sell them second hand, usually in the HSBI discord server.
  2. Yep
  3. Nope
  4. Powered up.
  5. Very possible. Just send a memo with I think .003 Hive and you can transfer to any account.

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Thank you very much for your help! :)

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I hope I've done this right, first time for me. 😅

Thanks!

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