VSC Bringing DeFi To Hive

in LeoFinance10 months ago

There is a reason many are optimistic about the VSC Network and what it is going to bring Hive.

For those who are not familiar with this, we are dealing with a sidechain that will provide an assortment of features, including smart contracts. This is going to have its own node system separate from the Hive witnesses. Because of the smart contracts, a host of other features can be created, more in line with what Ethereum and the associated forks offer.

So far, much of the focus is on the wrapping of Bitcoin. This is a vital step forward since we are then able to link Hive to the outside world. Essentially, people will be able to swap HIVE for BTC (the other way also). This provides an on/off ramp for the ecosystem.

Since Bitcoin is most liquid cryptocurrency in terms of trading volume, this can extend the tentacles to basically every centralized exchange.

This is the first of many development associated with the network.

The Addition of More Coins/Tokens

What gets exciting is this model can be duplicated. It makes sense that Litecoin should not be far behind since it is similar code base. In fact, all the forks of Bitcoin should be similar.

Then we have the EVMs. This is a different code set but having wrapped ERC-20 tokens on VSC would really enhance the ability to swap.

Of course, none of this is useful without the tools to engage with the network. In a recent article, we see how this is starting to unfold.

This is an image of the interface being developed. It is similar to many that we see within the crypto industry. What is interesting is the fact that we see the Hive Backed Dollar (HBD) listed. This is an important currency for Hive, hence adding it from the start makes sense.

Naturally, none of this is useful without liquidity. Hence the ability to monitor what is available to conduct transactions.

There is another important point:

We aim to build a clean, fully functional DeFi interface for VSC. Initially, we will target Wrapped Bitcoin and HBD/Hive, however, as communities create their own tokens on VSC those will become supported as well.

Supporting the development of new tokens is crucial. This is something that is going to really enhance the ecosystem. We saw the impact of Hive-Engine. The problem there is the closed nature of the system. VSC is going to allow smart contract development along with individual node operation that is completely separate from the project team.

The Hive Financial Network

We have discussed the Hive Financial Network on many occasions. Here is some pieces that will serve as the foundation for that.

While the article mentioned DeFi, we see how that is incorporated into this evolving concept.

VSC is going to provide asset creation. This is exactly what we saw with the approval of a Bitcoin Spot ETF. Wall Street institutions are now generating derivatives of Bitcoin. VSC is no different.

The first step is to wrap BTC, basically creating a derivative. The potential exists to create any asset that is tied to whatever the creator wants. This is Wall Street 101. New products are created utilizing the value resident elsewhere.

Therefore, we will be moving towards a time when an assortment of assets can be built, for many different purposes. Some will provide leverage while others hedge. These can be fungible or non-fungible tokens. We could put together synthetic assets which is tied to the price of another asset such as a stock.

In other words, this puts Hive in the DeFi game in a much larger way.

We also have two key points to this:

The latter is something that will sell. We know the hunt for lower fees is always taking place. With this system, we have a fee-less base layer with Hive. Then, we could see a similar system replicated on VSC where heavy traders stake HBD, eliminating the direct transaction fees.

Merging Of Finance And Social Media

The reason this is so important is because we are seeing the merging of finance and social media. Here is another topic that we discussed regarding Elon Musk and Twitter.

That effort now stands at 32 states. The plan is to bring a payment system to X, something requiring a money transmitter license from each state.

With Hive (Web 3.0), none of that applies.

What is necessary is the infrastructure to develop the services and integrate them into applications. VSC will provide this.

How about a lending platform based upon a community token such as Leo? That will be possible with VSC. What about a NFT system that rewards users on an application for certain activities? VSC can handle that. Want to swap a token earned for a synthetic tied to Apple stock? It could be built.

Basically, any social media activity could be incentivized (read monetized) and the assets tradeable, thus forming a market.

This is the future of the Internet. Social media gets a lot of the attention for obvious reasons. It is enormous along with being something people understand. That said, VSC is going to offer solutions with gaming, shopping, and an assortment of other industries. Once the tools are in place, innovation begins.

Inside Wealth Generation First

People often question what is required to bring in move users. Unfortunately, without the necessary pieces in place, it ends up being nothing more than the selling of vaporware.

That said, VSC is going to change things because we have the ability to generate wealth from within. The further expansion allowing the merging of social media and finance carries an impact most are underestimating.

Most of crypto has dead tokens. Obviously, many of the projects are the same so it is a natural outcome. However, what is an active project offers a host of other options for their assets. Right now, we can basically sell or stake. The latter offers some benefits, often generating a return.

From this point, what is there was a number of other options. Here is where wealth can explode. Even without newer people or money, we see more activity. In the data world, this builds value.

Of course, this will not remain a secret. As the wealth builds, others will take notice. After all, a lot of people obsess with those who live in the "fancy" part of town. It is no secret where the posh real estate is.

What happens if people are making bank on Hive (and VSC)? This is where others start to take an interest. Nothing sells better than success. We see this all the time. Sadly, it is often a scam with someone promoting some dream when he or she really has no idea how to achieve it other than offer a program.

With this, we simply are dealing with people engaging in different online activities, being rewarded, and seeing massive wealth generation through the assortment of DeFi tools created.

That is the potential of the Hive Financial Network.

Imagine the day when you can buy a house using a loan from an application that allows you to provide a token in your wallet as collateral.

Do you think that would get a bit of attention?


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The future is getting brighter everyday.

After 6 years blogging on Steem/Hive, I have lost hope and faith it what should be a great product. Hive is the worst performing token of my portfolio. I'm selling my Hive for better price performance since I'm in crypto for profit as well as tech. Hive is too centralized and censored by a few whales with all the upvote money. The tokenomics don't work for me. I've run out of patience. Sorry.

Good luck to you.

There needs to be a lot of talk about effective decentralization before the platform risk becomes low enough to entrust it large amounts of $btc or $ltc.

I'll just leave this here, you know what it means. It's not hard to achieve, but it has to happen.
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this is the elephant in the room. Why would anyone shift large amounts of BTC with Hive? If one wants to do that one first has to trust/understand Hive and we do have a centralization issue that looks pretty bad from the outside. I guess what will first happen are micro transactions that if vsc proves itself over time could attract larger investors/transactions. It's still a long road ahead of us, but at least we are finally getting the foundations right.

Not sure how w solve the whale problem though

That is a very mature take, the general 'platform' issue is the biggest hurdle to engage with the Hive ecosystem at all.

Due to this, I have been trying to think about 'trust' as a concept too. As far as it goes for my conclusion. Trust is Absolute, it is a Constant, a Decision and a Multi-Party Concept but with limited scope.

Which means Hive has to be absolute trustworthy, to work as any railway for the trustless use of wrapped coins. Looking at the real time witness situation and the size of the community is of incredible importance and even more so their perception to the outside. Something the Freechain documentary totally missed the mark on. In order to be maximum trust erecting, you want the chain to be perceived as insanely autonom and the documentary is suggesting that it is Dan and his free speech loving friends who are at the center of everything. Certainly not wrong, but a message that will get take the wrong way.

BTC is not resident on Hive, it is resident on VSC.

but without Hive, no VSC right? While long time Hivers know that Hive's chance of breaking down is very slim, it's still probably a question on someone's mind when they brings funds into this ecosystem. On ETH everyone just blindly (and pribably wrongly) trusts the chain, we have to get to that point at some point too

but without Hive, no VSC right?

Yes, however there is nothing stopping VSC from migrating to something else if Hive were to disappear entirely. If there is a Hive fork VSC has it's own consensus and can help in the migration process to the other fork. There is some protections there naturally by having it's own small consensus.

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Good & fair points indeed.

What do you mean?

There is too much power focused, every top20 got endorsed by BT as you can see. His vote is 13.7%+ of the total endorsement of any top witness.

I've had the thrown at me multiple times while arguing for Hive. People in the space seem to at least take notice and care about that.

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BT's vote doesn't guarantee you a top 20 spot. Did they get endorsed because they were close to becoming top 20 or were they already a top 20 witness?

Could someone become a top 20 witness without BT's vote? Absolutely.

Would it be harder to achieve without BT's vote? Again absolutely.

The problem is not enough people vote for witnesses or if they do vote they just vote for whoever is in the top 20 and call it a day.

Another problem is that there are a ton of people who don't care about governance and just only care about earning. Whatever small amount of HIVE they receive is powered down and sold.

I haven't really seen BT powering down.

Hm, no you can not become a block producer if the biggest stake holders don't support you. That is as certain as death on a delegated proof of stake blockchain.

I think showing restraint would good, just don't have vote on twenty or more out of 20+1 Blockproducers if you're a top10 whale. How about 3-5, and keep the rest of the voting power for an actual attack scenario.

But honestly, I do not want to be prescriptive. That is not my place to be at. Every setting is in place purposefully, no accidents here to be discover.

The fact that there is a lot of circular voting amoung top witnesses and large stakeholders and that BT's vote is very helpful, but not essential to get into top 20 or get a proposal funded does not mean Hive is not more decentralised than every other blockchain other than Bitcoin.

The mining process of Hive is naturally more decentralized and very independent from the Witnesses. We can create saving, participate in author/curation mining and get staking rewards independent of staking pools.

Every not whale will most likely not care about this issue. Meanwhile the security of wrapped btc on the VSC side is actually getting hardened right now. VSC and Hive are preparing a hardfork enabling big multi signature pools for additional security surrounding the wrapped Coins.

But the raw fact that one and the same stake votes on 30 witnesses in 20+1 witness system is suboptimal - and easy to fix.

VSC and Hive are preparing a hardfork enabling big multi signature pools.

Please do not confuse massive multisigs with Hive consensus. They are two completely separate things.

I really think none outside of our ecosystem understand how the mining processes of this Blockchain work. You can't just look at the witnesses to understand "Who is making money?"

I think showing restraint would good, just don't have vote on twenty or more out of 20+1 Blockproducers if you're a top10 whale. How about 3-5, and keep the rest of the voting power for an actual attack scenario.

The problem is once an entity has enough power to vote one person into the top20 single handily, they can practically vote out everyone currently in the top20. The top20 have majority control over block production & rewards, yet the actual voting structure encourages a concentration of stake around that top20.

Irrespective of the individuals involved whether it's BT, or whaleXYZ

Very eloquently written and 100% right, sportsman would say a perfect defense is the perfect offense. That fits here too.

Obviously the mining process is not limited to block production with this technology.

Obviously the mining process is not limited to block production with this technology.

Yes, and this is good. Arguably, block production needs to be done by much more than just the top20 as the majority producers.

Hm, no you can not become a block producer if the biggest stake holders don't support you. That is as certain as death on a delegated proof of stake blockchain.

Moving the goalpost. You talked about BT's vote. I am talking about BT's vote. Others' vote doesn't have a bearing on this. You can become a top 20 witness without BT's vote. It is just going to be hard.

Of course, you are not going to become a top 20 witness when multiple big stakeholders don't support you. Why does someone who doesn't have support become a top 20 witness?

That is a taunt, I acknowledged your effort and refuse to attack. My statement remains the same. The amount of effective governance-power projected by BT is extraordinary.

That is a taunt, I acknowledged your effort and refuse to attack. My statement remains the same. The amount of effective governance-power projected by BT is extraordinary.

Governance-power projected by BT is not that extraordinary, you are exaggerating the power BT holds.

And powering down your HP and not powering it up is contradictory to your statement. As BT is only able to project "extraordinary" governance-power due to people powering down and not trying to power up.

Greetings friend. I have a question, what will happen to Hive Engine and its tokens?

Migrate.

Sounds interesting, i made couple days ago my first purchase in swap.doge and was wondering how to get others coins to swap.hive.

I vote for swap.ada

Ltc and btc it's already possible using HE, right?!

Migrate like HE will not be able anymore or migrate cause VSC will be better?

Ltc and btc it's already possible using HE, right?!

100% centralized though. VSC wrapping is fully decentralized and permissionless.

Migrate like HE will not be able anymore or migrate cause VSC will be better?

VSC will provide a huge amount of customizability out of the box, which for many use cases is far more useful.

Great, then tokenized projects will be able to add smart contracts. I know POB was looking for something like that.

At some point developers will be able to add their own smart contracts from what I understand.

It is also using a programming language they are familiar with.

What would be the programming language?

I dont remember. Java I think. It is a basic one that most developers know.

We started out with JS, but now moving to webassembly which enables support for any webassembly compatible language to be used. We are mainly targetting assemblyscript (javascript like) then over time we will add more languages. It'll likely go from assemblyscript, to golang and rust.

Got it!

This is exciting! Long overdue and glad it’s coming.

That is up to the teams behind the tokens.

I would not be surprised if many are "wrapped" on VSC.

Hive desperately needs this. Keep pushing VSC!

It does indeed! It’s exciting!

The emphasis on wealth generation from within the network, coupled with the merging of social media and finance, really does strike my interest . Overall, it should get some attention because it's giving the demeanor of a forward looking exploration of the Hive Financial Network's potential.

Well it is the way of the world.

If we are truly dealing with a network-stake, how does a town grow. From the efforts of the people.

Oh wow, this is amazing. Well done I didn't realise this was being developed. Cheers for the heads up!

Yeah Vaultec and others have been busy.

Yup

Thank you for this post. So the future is actually bright for hive. Does it mean the value of hive will increase?

Markets do what markets do.

Really great n wonderful info. Though half of the post reading made me dizzy not that ur post was not good (new 2 hive n understanding all about Hive is not that easy) reblogged thinking that soon will try to read n understand this informative post again.

Such a good and hope assuring post. It sounds like the future will certainly be bright. Hoping that hive and HBD lands well. Thank you for the exposition

This is very exciting. I really want an on and an off ramp.

I've already caught a glimpse of this with the v4v app being able to pay for BTC transactions with HBD. Seeing a DeFi that can do this on demand and for other tokens as well is very promising. If this can provide the service for less fee [because it is in the Hive blockchain] compared to others that offer something similar, then that will be a big deal. I hope the get the funding and support to do this.

If only hive can incorporate something like the defi also on the platform will help it to grow massively