Three-Tune Tuesday: Big in the UK, Flops in the USA

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When I was younger, I was fascinated by the American Music Charts. Pre-Internet, it was tough to keep up with what was happening on the other side of the pond.

Who were 'Daryl Hall & John Oates'?. How about 'Tom Perry & The Heartbreakers' or 'The Go-Go's'? The radio was the only way you were going to hear about these duos or bands.., and these were the artists hitting the top of the US 100 billboard.

I knew about them but struggled to hear the music and the radio for the most part failed to deliver. More than once I blindly bought a single, just so I could hear what was going on ‘over there’.

"We Got the Beat – The Go-Go's" was one of these, and I loved it.

Over here, nobody seemed to give a shit about American music. We had our own quirky bands and artists that never made an appearance stateside. Was it just a 'me' thing?

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Diana Ross – Chain Reaction (Eaten Alive – 1985)


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@bozz brought this one to my attention recently after his post about classic female vocalists. I couldn't quite believe it when he stated he had not heard this song before.

In the UK, it was a major hit in 1985, reaching the top of the charts and staying there for three weeks. Yet Diana is American and this particular song written by the Bee Gees and boasting Barry Gibb's very distinctive backing vocal flopped in America.

Intrigued, I noted that another Diana song. 'I'm Still Waiting', which also topped the UK charts also flopped stateside. Such is the discrepancy of different flavoured ears between the two sides of the ocean.

I remember watching the video for 'Chain Reaction' and not quite believing how Diana managed to look so young in the black and white footage. I was duped for a while thinking it was some sixties archival material with lip-synching trickery added.

Diana was 41 years old at the time of release and yet looked like a 17-year-old to me. When the colour part appeared, that mirage was instantly washed away. That was some filming, to remove a good 20 years of age. I guess, being extra skinny helped things a lot.

Today, I can't listen to this. It was overplayed at the time and still is on the rotating 80's radio hit channels floating around. It's better left in the past.

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The Jam – Start (Sounds Affects – 1980)


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I could have chosen any number of Jam songs, as the band made little impression in America yet here they were incredibly popular. As a post-punk band come Mod this was hardly a 'thing' stateside, and their following was always going to be limited.

If they could have added some 'Country' overtones, then of course the Americans would lap it all up. I still don't understand this obsession with this genre..., so easy-going and laid-back.

In contrast, The Jam were all sharp angles, pokes and change of direction, and this is more apparent in ‘Start’ than most of their back catalogue,

A song just over 2 minutes long harks back to the punk era of a few years prior but there's nothing simple about this band's music. The vocal harmonies between Paul Weller and Bruce Foxton always had my attention and just listen to that fantastic bass.

Lead vocalist, Paul Weller had little success in America after the breakup of the Jam, and I would be interested if any American readers even know the name.

I was a little slow on my appreciation of 'The Jam', and am not so fond of some of their other singles, but this is not the only one that managed to get my ear.

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Madness – Night Boat to Cairo (One Step Beyond – 1979)


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'...They just don't get it?...'

What would the American public think of Madness? I would guess at 'Far too British’, and out there.

Yet the American market loved Benny Hill, who came from the same mould, albeit with risqué sexual sketches that looked hopelessly dated now.

'...Cringe... I hated Benny Hill, and 'Are you Being Served' even more so...'

Madness was similar and slapstick but in a musical kind of way. A band that seamlessly made great use of the Trumpet in popular music was something very different making Madness very popular during the first half of the 80's.

'Night Boat to Cairo' was one of their earlier hits, though I was tempted to post the instrumental 'One Step Beyond' as the video always makes me chuckle.

Like 'Paul Weller' of 'The Jam', lead singer 'Suggs' boasted a very distinct English voice typical of the South and London. I have noticed this doesn’t tend to go down well with the Americans.

Lose your accent, or remain invisible to the largest market on Earth?


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Man, I can hardly believe Chain Reaction was a flop over there! I had totally assumed it was us getting yet another import of a successful tune!

So did I.. and was surprised when @bozz had never heard it before. It's not something I listen to now, much of the 80's is very cheese covered now.

The eithies is cheesier than a Russian's cheese board!

Mostly.. 'Start - The Jam' still sounds good though.

I always had a soft spot for them because my brother was a huge fan and I couldn't quite get them but as time went on I did get to like some of their stuff

Holy crap, a TTT post actually on Tuesday? That's nuts! That song by The Jam reminds me a lot of Taxman from The Beatles. I can definitely hear the influence there. Madness was a bit well known over here. Mostly for "Our House", I doubt anyone could name another one of their songs. Even then the more casual listeners would probably guess Our House was a Simple Minds or Crowded House song or something like that.

'Our House'.. that's interesting... why that one? Another song full of trumpets.. and yes I did buy it in 1982 like many of their hits. 'House of Fun' was the big one here, and their only #1, but they had countless top ten hits.

Holy crap, a TTT post actually on Tuesday? That's nuts!

Well.. I am trying.. 😀..

'The Beatles - Taxman' - I hear it.., and am surprised no law-suits for infringement of copyright happened..., that is almost the same.

Yeah, I don't know why that song of theirs broke through and none of the other ones did. It's one of those mysteries I guess... Times were different back then. People weren't as sue happy as they are now.

I used to hear about various US bands that did not get much radio play here so you had to seek them out. I think the UK charts could be quite quirky. Just think how many 'novelty' songs made it to number 1. I doubt Mr Blobby tried to break the US. Then you had Bush who got huge in the US, but not at home. These days I have little idea what is in any charts.

In some aspects the Americans have more sense than us. 'Star Trekking across the Universe', 'Shaddup your Face' had no impact there. Aren't they the lucky ones?

It was different market and things will have changed since then. People make it big without touring anywhere if they go 'viral'.

In our house we have a mix of Radio 2 and 6 Music. I prefer the latter. I also listen to feeds from Spotify that give me some new sounds. I just don't need to hear the same old hits over and over.

Radio 2.., it was for old people... can you remember? Now its for us... sigh.

'there life Jim, but not as we know it..., not as we know it, not as we know it..'... it still make me chuckle a little.., did you buy it? 😀..

did you buy it?

No. There was a name clash with another band featuring Jimmy Page and Paul Rodgers.

I don't know this one, its not a very original band name.

Perhaps we had one advantage being down South, radio was our only source to find new bands on LM radio hits of the week. Always swung over to hear British and American normally indicated which side of the pond they originated, plus standings on both sides.

Wee piece of our history, shortwave station broadcasting to South Africa and Rhodesia from Mozambique back then....

On 12 October 1975, following Moçambican independence from Portugal in June of that year, LM Radio facilities were nationalised and the station closed down on 13 October 1975.

I used to listen to 'Jimmy Saville's Old Record Club'... eek.., this was about 1980, long before he was posthumously caught abusing girls. He played some really obscure stuff from the 70's that I would never had heard otherwise.

Good for something eh?

Some strange things happened back then, still never altered memories, or any stranger than we see now. We tuned in via different places/continents, music brought many together.

This is a well-crafted and nostalgic take on music trends across the Atlantic!
You highlight an interesting contrast between UK and US musical tastes, showing how some British bands struggled to break into the American market despite their massive success at home. The insights on Diana Ross, The Jam, and Madness are particularly engaging, especially the observation about accents playing a role in international success.

Are you planning to make this a series? @slobberchops
It would be cool to explore more artists who had regional success but didn’t quite make it globally.

Are you planning to make this a series? @slobberchops

It did cross my mind. I have plenty of musical memories left in my head..., personal experiences that I can mix into facts.

It'll really be nice if you do man............
I know right

Well I know Diana Ross only for Upside down and Madness only for One step beyond. But I'm a millenial from Italy so I'm totally off this topic ahah
I think the rest of Europe don't really understand that before internet could have been such difference between UK and USA charts. For us, English music is English music, no matter where it's from.

Wow, hard to believe these tunes flopped over there, cracking tunes all three.

How beautiful Diana is. I love her. I didn't know her, but she's beautiful.

I'm still thinking about finding a ruin and writing a story.

Fascinating how music tastes differ across the pond! 🌊
"Night Boat to Cairo" is a gem—Madness definitely had that unique British charm! 🇬🇧

Yes it does, I always loved the nutty boys.

It's good to know that you're interested in music since you were young. Keep it up and have a fantastic day with some musics.

Since I was around 10 years old, I have been a fan of music.

The Jam and Madness were huge here, but yeah, I can see why Americans might have been like, "Huh?" And buying singles just to hear what was going on? That’s commitment! Love it.

You remember those bands well?

I remember when I was very young, in the 1980s, I usually heard American music and had not heard Tagalog music because my brothers preferred the Beatles, Wham, Megadeth, Scorpions (my idol), U2, and others. I grew up with these songs. Up until now, I still like their songs. It's like forever in my heart.

I am surprised the likes of Megadeth can be heard in the Philippines. My memories of visiting there were boy bands.. everywhere.

You are right, boy bands are everywhere. I also like them, and I listened to Metallica and Megadeth songs, too. I even have a Megadeth t-shirt.

Nice one

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Madness are possibly my favourite band, I am going to see them in December and The Jam were awesome. I preferred Weller in the Jam to his own stuff or The Style Council.

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