the question is different
do the people of ukraine have the right to self-determination under the un Charter?
Can a separate region of Ukraine organise a referendum and secede from the country, or should Russia assert this right militarily?
The population should choose, but can we trust votes if there was army all around voters
Yes, Green men were in Crimea!
The Ukrainian army has launched an anti-terrorist operation against its own population of Donetsk and Luhansk, calling them separatists for their desire to separate their regions from Bandera Ukraine in the wake of Crimea. And Russia did not have the courage and strength in 2014 to ensure that the green men held a referendum there!
In general, the presence of green little men is a good reason to ignore the will of the people! At every election, security is provided by people with guns. But when these weapons are held by Russians - the expression of the will is not legitimate? Is that your logic?
My relatives and friends from Crimea voted in this referendum, it was no different from the others except for the mass upliftment of spirit from the realisation of involvement in something great and crucial. I remember their mood
Are you aware that Ukraine cut off water and electricity to the territories where separatists - terrorists - lived? They were exterminated! Two regions of my country my state outlawed and sent regular army and nationalist battalions of volunteers against them. The Nazis in the government of Ukraine, who seized power in 2014 as a result of a coup d'état, bombed with planes, shelled with tanks and artillery, stormed with infantry, the inhabitants of Ukraine who refused to recognise the legitimacy of the Nazis and Banderites who seized power by force!
Only some Russian military figures responded to the pleas for help of the Russian-speaking population of the south-eastern part of Ukraine, and that unofficially, and at the beginning of the conflict Russia participated only indirectly by a small number of volunteers who crossed the border on their own.
Do you know who Bandera is and what he did? Do you know how many monuments to this murderer of women and children have been erected in Ukraine? Would you like to ask Polish historians about his biography?
Do you consciously support Nazis and want to see them in the European Union?
Do you realise that the sooner Nato stops funding the Nazis, the sooner the bloodshed on my land will end, and the sooner the EU economy will be able to recover from senseless and useless anti-Russian sanctions to the detriment of its own population?
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Whatever, stopping the funding won't stop the killings. Russia won't just stop to invade Ukraine, if tommorow Nato stop funding the chance of russia simply attacking the whole land, probably where you live too (you live in ukraine too right ?). For the most part the economics suffer from other factor only the energy/gas price raised a lot due to the sanctions the rest is caused by other poor managing decisions.
As stayoutoftherz sayed let's just agree to disagree
Your assertion that Russia can attack the whole world is tantamount to saying that the US or Australia can do it!
Ukraine, having decided to join nato, started to pose an existential threat to russia. Russia could not let that happen. This was the main condition of Ukrainian sovereignty - neutrality and non-aligned status.
When Ukraine violated it, it received the natural consequences of its shortsightedness!
If Mexico had agreed to deploy Russian weapons near US borders, America would have done exactly the same thing as Russia, but with a more brutal scenario! Why do you think that Russia should have allowed the enemy to approach its territory with its bases and weapons and America should not? There have been far worse crimes against civilians in US history than in Russian history!
Why aren't you worried about the people of Gaza? Unlike the Ukrainians, they are being destroyed for real! And here we have nightclubs, corruption in the country on humanitarian aid, arms trade from Western partners, evasion of forced mobilisation.... Transport and enterprises are working, the transit of aggressive gas through our territory to our partners continues ... Standing bridges, government, railway not shelled.
How many Gazans can tell us in the Hive about their fate? Why don't they come out in their pants dipped in paint to rally against aggressive Israel? They must have dignity!
Haha good point you bring here, i'm for gaza. Why don't gaza come on hive maybe because they don't have internet there anymore. I am worried about what happen in gaza all this kids and civilians bombed and all these atrocities.
I never sayed russia would attack the whole world just sayed russia would attack the whole of Ukraine if aids stopped.
The nato join of Ukrainian wouldn't be a threat if russia never planned of attacking Ukraine,
There have been far worse crimes against civilians in US history than in Russian history!
And ? Because usa commited war crimes russia can do some too ? No, i'm agaisn't all type of war crime but currently the warcrimes are more russian sided.
Like sayed before we probably won't be able to agree maybe it's better to save some time and stop argumenting.
Fuel prices are rising because someone voluntarily gave up cheap fuel, thinking that by doing so they will do bad things to Russia to their own detriment. But Russia has reoriented its sales, and the EU has not been able to meet its demand at the previous prices.
Now the Hussites have added their transport tax))))) Hang in there