RE: Knowing What And How

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RE: Knowing What And How

holoz0r in Rant, Complain, Talk • 13 days ago

A lot of authors fail to engage in their comments section.

A lot of comments (though, less than before) - now the problem tends to be vague, AI written responses show evidence that the post itself has not been read.

There's problems from both sides. No one is perfect, but if you're not going to read the post, then leave a comment, why leave a comment at all, when the author is going to know (by lack of understanding shown in the comment itself) - that it wasn't genuine engagement, and is probably in the category of spam.

Having said that, we're way better than random wordpress blogs in terms of engagement (we're higher),and the volume of spam (we're less). Spam here at least tries to be relevant. It tries poorly, but it tries all the same.

... if the author is a curator at a well known curation project, then you can see why they are commenting.

Yes, it doesn't take much to put two and two together.

As for me, as I said somewhere else, in another comment, I can only speak three languages:

My native tongue (English)
Whimpering
Whatever sounds I made as an infant

I think the last two are languages that all humans have in common.

13 days ago in Rant, Complain, Talk by holoz0r

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erikah 13 days ago

but if you're not going to read the post, then leave a comment, why leave a comment at all, when the author is going to know

At the beginning I used to ignore the fact that they did not read my post but not anymore. If it's obvious, I'm letting them know, maybe they change their behavior. There's a frontend that is rewarding commenters blindly, which basically encourages spam commenting. They are also curating everything blindly and supporting abusers because a lot.

As for me, as I said somewhere else, in another comment, I can only speak three languages:

My native tongue (English)
Whimpering
Whatever sounds I made as an infant
I think the last two are languages that all humans have in common.

🤣🤣🤣

I speak 4 languages but 2 are useless once I leave those countries. One is a bit better known and the other is English.

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holoz0r 13 days ago

There's a frontend that is rewarding commenters blindly, which basically encourages spam commenting.

I am not sure which one you are referring to, but I have a suspicion. I'm not going to name that one, but I am going to mention another trend I have noticed.

For short form content, we have Snaps, Waves, etc.

Snaps and Waves are published with comment rewarder turned on. As a result, all users participating in the platform may get some reward. Snaps and Waves have their own "top" level Posts which all the comments appear on, then rendered in the respective interfaces.

I have seen multiple users publish the same thing on Waves and Snaps. (I look at both) - to me, I see it as a two edged blade, maybe three...

They are getting rewards for the same "content" (if you can call a short form "content")
Not everyone looks at both waves and snaps, so perhaps they're trying to extend their reach

or maybe,

Three: They are attempting, in a small way, to farm rewards.

Not everyone understands the mechanics, but I try to limit my participation (when I make a snap) - to one platform - after I noticed this trend among users.

What are your thoughts?

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erikah 13 days ago

I've never used these because my time is limited and I'm trying to dedicate it to posts. However I see those snaps that are popping up in my feed. I'm not sure if waves are visible to me as well or I'm mistaking which one is 😬

Even if the content is not visible, it's still the same content and rewarded from the same pool. Why should be judged differently? Why would they be rewarded multiple times for the same content when it's basically copy paste?

There are so many things wrong on Hive, on so many levels, I can't even begin to tell you and it's sad ...

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holoz0r 13 days ago

Peakd has the option for a unified view across all platforms (without needing to swap platforms, but comparing across browser tabs when interacting with the differing front ends), yeah, copy and paste.

You don't need to preach to me about the things wrong on Hive, I sing in the same choir, albeit with a quieter voice.

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erikah 13 days ago

What worries me is not the small abusers we are trying to stop every day. It's the direction the big stakeholders have taken and even after providing evidence of what they are doing is wrong, unproductive and waste, they still refuse to listen.

Hive could be among the leading platform in its own category, yet it feels like we're going backwards.

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holoz0r 13 days ago

I think the biggest threat to that status quo is "better content". Content so good that it cannot be ignored.

Maybe I am delusional, but I think we all have our own visions.

Sorry for going so far off topic, but it cannot be solved for mathematically, since upvotes will always win out over downvotes (in terms of mana).

I don't have a solution, but I will keep plodding along at my own stuff and supporting and engaging the good stuff, too.

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erikah 13 days ago

No worries, I don't mind going off topic if the discussion is genuine and not just to increase the number of comments.

As far as quality content is concerned, basically one should have the right to post what they want, as long as it's not abuse, and quality is subjective as we have different level of education, different backgrounds and hudge content differently.

Hive is also not just about blogging and could be about and is about a lot more.

I also don't have a solution for all the problems, just a few, but if our voice is not heard, there's little we can do.

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