80 Cents is the FLOOR Price.

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Lot's of energy on the chain of late for obvious reasons.

Hive going x2 in under an hour has that affect on people.

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Hive spiking

So I had just dumped like 500 Hive for CUB and I was pretty annoyed that it spiked x2 immediately after that. But then I noticed something. No one had arbitraged the Hive on HiveEngine yet. Free money for me. I unlocked my CUB, sold it for bLEO, unwrapped the bLEO into LEO and dumped it.

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After getting the Hive I think I dumped it around 80 cents. Traded that BTC back into bUSD, and that back into CUB. Took me 17 minutes to turn 489 CUB into 629 CUB. Thanks for the free 150 CUB fam.

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Of course I was only able to do this because of the unwrapping bot. Normally you'd have to have HiveEngine tokens on hand to do something like this, as there is no other way to acquire those tokens except to have them at the time of a spike. Using the bridge to BSC I was able to get LEO on demand without using HE.

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In any case, yesterday was a crazy day. To be fair the next 9 months are going to be riddled with crazy days. That's just the nature of the mega-bubble market.

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Before I had to pop off to work this is how high my theoretical account value got too. Of course we see that Hive actually spiked to $1 so it was even higher than this. Crazy stuff. You know you're in the mega-bubble year when one of your bags goes +$80k in an hour.

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But again, Hive at 80 cents? This is a baseline value. This is where we should have held ever since 2018. 80 cents is the fair price of tokens for this network, and hopefully the next time around there will be enough bulls who take gainz at the $5-$50 levels to support this new floor.

Hive has gone from 242 on the market cap to 173. In my opinion Hive is a top 10 coin, and it's very clear that getting into the top 40 would be trivially easy considering our value. We still have a long way to go.

When it really comes down to it you can't buy the kind of history we have. We defied a hostile takeover. The most obvious and direct attack vector against the network was thwarted with "ease". Vitalik is constantly talking about us because these governance issues matter quite a bit. We proved that DPOS is even stronger than it was thought to be on paper.

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On the CUB side of things deposits have been reduced to 0% for 24 hours and APRs on the main farms have spiked massively. Already tons of users have moved over funds to the BNB LP to account for the difference in yield. BNB was only higher yield than BUSD for a moment. Now we are back to a 40% spread between the two within the hour. That being said, both pools are still have massive yields higher than 500% due to the changes in inflation. If I'm being honest I'm surprised more users aren't buying CUB to get in on this madness.

Conclusion

Looks like I may have money to fund a project or two earlier than expected. The mega-bubble feeds into itself and allow users like me to bring even more value to the ecosystem with proper management of funds.

If Hive can maintain this price my blog/curation rewards are about to skyrocket once again. Passive income is the best. At this rate I'll be able to quit my job or work bare-minimum hours by the end of Q2. One of these days I'll be a full time Hive kid. Good stuff.

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This is where we should have held ever since 2018. 80 cents is the fair price of tokens for this network,

It's impossible to discover fair price (or market price), when there are no price discovery mechanisms in place.
This requires free markets, supply, demand, and sound money.
Sound money is not inflationary. Hive is not a free market. Hive is inflationary.

When it really comes down to it you can't buy the kind of history we have. We defied a hostile takeover.

Someone with a critical eye could quite easily look at the stats after the steem / hive fork, and rationally deduce that it's the same project, just doubled.
I'm not saying this is the case, but I could play devils advocate and argue that it it is.

We proved that DPOS is even stronger than it was thought to be on paper.

DPOS is weaker than a new born lamb, in terms of longevity.
There's been no ecosytem in history (that I'm aware of), either politically, or commercially - where non meritocratic systems have endured.
After the cyclical process of becoming an oligarchy - through merit and capital - and then it becoming institutionalized and stagnant through bureaucracies and midwits, the system falls apart.

DPOS by passes the 'capital and merit' phase, going straight to oligarchy and the midwit.

Someone with a critical eye could quite easily look at the stats after the steem / hive fork, and rationally deduce that it's the same project, just doubled.

Sounds like a very uncritical eye to me.
Might as well say that Bitcoin is the same as every other Bitcoin fork.
Code can be copied, but networks/communities can not.

DPOS by passes the 'capital and merit' phase, going straight to oligarchy and the midwit.

Right... yeah it doesn't though. The stacks of more trustworthy people are the ones getting bigger.

Still in the early stages of merit. Crypto actually bypasses the bureaucracy stage with the ability to fork governance in an instant. These networks are permissionless. You can't add red tape to them. Healthy competition is everywhere. You are impatient.

midwits

This is my new favourite word.

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You post to say you snapped your fingers and pulled another 150 units out of the community, for yourself, and the community pays you another $75.
Yeah I'd say you're well on your way to not having to go to your day job anymore :)

It's trading at 68 cents right now. We should start calling your calls the "the jinx".

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Sorry was I implying that it wouldn't crash below 80 cents in the extremely near term?
80 cents is a nice floor during a bear market.
Let's circle back at the end of the year and see where we land.

We proved that DPOS is even stronger than it was thought to be on paper.

No, we proved that DPOS was a shit as it was before, that's why JS managed to put their sockpuppets easily and without control, and that's why witnesses had to freeze his SP.

Now with the changes done in that DPOS we have managed to improve our resillience against these kind of attacks.

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Any consensus mechanism is shit with a bad distribution. Don't blame DPoS.

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Proof of stake is called, obviously if you have a bad distribution this system is condemned to the failure but the amount of votes available for the witnesses and also the lack of an upvote decay were vectors of attack already in STEEM.

We have solved one issue but the system should be improved yet. I should blame only to the bad distribution?, the one that we have now isn't very encouraging also, I mean most of the stake is holded by whales and orcas still. Hasn't changed so much.

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I should blame only to the bad distribution?

I said no such thing. But DPoS is not to blame. Implementation is key, and as you suggest, there is still room for improvement.

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As has already been stated, we didn't change DPOS: we changed the distribution and took away the governance powers of exchanges. In the grand scheme of things these we very minor tweeks. The term "Layer Zero" was legit born in the wake of the attack. All of this history has extreme significance.

At this rate I'll be able to quit my job or work bare-minimum hours by the end of Q2.

Hey, if you haven’t yet watched Nomadland, check out the scenes (early and late-ish in the movie) set in an Amazon warehouse.

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But again, Hive at 80 cents? This is a baseline value. This is where we should have held ever since 2018. 80 cents is the fair price of tokens for this network

Definitely. It will probably never get under that threshold. Maybe... I remember though back in 2018 quite a few were saying that STEEM will never dip under $1 and we know how low it went.

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Personally I think we can return all the way back to 20-40 cents, but the 80 cent support should hold for quite a while during the bear market.

I did a double-take when I woke up and saw the value of my stake. But yeah, I couldn't agree more and think wild days like these will not be so unusual going forward. Keeping a portion of your stake in free HIVE, gives us the freedom to react when situations like this pop up. 2021 is going to be a blast and the feeling is, you ain't seen nothing yet! :)


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In any case, yesterday was a crazy day. To be fair the next 9 months are going to be riddled with crazy days.

Couldn't agree more, 2021 is going to be a spectacular year for crypto.

When it really comes down to it you can't buy the kind of history we have. We defied a hostile takeover. The most obvious and direct attack vector against the network was thwarted with "ease".

Preach! The community behind this project is our true superpower. We can't fail.

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Today's pump was a great opportunity for Hivers to make gains in the market. I would love to go full-time crypto but I guess it's not likely within 2 years from my side. If you are capable of doing it, It can be a sound idea 😌

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Maybe I should pay attention to the wild swings of Hive myself instead of finding out from other people's posts about new ATHs. :) I seem to keep missing many opportunities there, many of them on purpose, because I don't want to sell yet.

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I say just wait for Q4.
We are at the foothills of the mountain.

And i'm extremely happy to support you and help you to quit your job :)

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I "watched" you do that last night. I knew the opportunity was there but there was no way I was going to be able to do anything fast enough to take advantage of it. You, on the other hand, were. Good for you! At least I can say I "know" the guy who did it. One step closer than I was the last time. lol

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Nice and swift action to maximize the momentary opportunity. Spoke with a friend about abandoning my career to focus on crypto, he advised me to continue my contributions to both the online and offline worlds. It pays to have relevance in both.

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It pays to have relevance in both.

Probably more true for you than someone like me working part time unskilled labor at a dead end job.

But yeah even for me there is usefulness there.

"don't put all eggs in a single basket"

exactly

They gave you free 150? That's pretty good man. Most of us didn't get it. I bought a few cubs with bnb when price was $3.

well it was not really free, he did some trading and ended up with 150 cub more

😂 Trading part got me confused. I'm a noob in trading. I thought he got some cubs in airdrop since he said it's free.

There was cheap Hive on HiveEngine and I dumped LEO to get it.
This is called arbitrage.

So you're the one that caused LEO's price to "crash" (not really). I was wondering what the strange movement of LEO's price on HIve was.

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It was going to happen no matter what.

Hive was being sold on HiveEngine for 50 cents and it was trading for 80 cents on Binance.

I was joking. Arbing is the best. I used to do it for sports before the lines became too sharp.

😐 I'm learning a lot from this Hive community. Thanks for helping me to setup my cubdefi farm 🌝 I'm that typical thoughts guy.

ANy idea who is doing all the hive trades during today. Are these exchanges ? I noticed Tron is also heavily traded. Coudl it be Justin ? Just wanna get the big picture...

Upbit exchange. Korean exchange.

Bagus sekali

Leo on sale

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Fun to talk about Hive and at the same time
seeing the true power behind this community.
CUb is doing just fine with that price.
Passive income is what have been missing for a long time.
Thank you cryptos.
$5 CUB will be craziness very soon when I think
of bubbles.

!BEER

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Yes it is I stayed wake up for the whole day to see the changes in the market
it is really crazy
Although I did not understand who did you get those additional cubs
but good luck

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As the price went up a lot from one hour to the next. He bought from those who were still selling at the old value. If that's what I got it right ...

It's been holding nicely at $0.80 this time. The last time we saw an instant sell off right after it which triggered it to come back to $0.60 levels. Dips on here are crazy fast and the buys don't take much capital to really shoot prices up. waiting for that billion dollar market cap ;) $2.40 hive but I have a feeling that would still be low balling it for everything that is going on here.

Good negotiation!

I also believe and hope that the price will remain around 0.7 to 0.8 now. I even mentioned this in my last post. Anyway, we are starting to see the power we have at hand and when we go over 1 $ in a solid way. A lot of people are going to go crazy.

Ps: A curiosity.

What is your work ?

Full time hive is the goal. Well done with the CUB

Although I am happy with the positive price action. It did not come at a good time for me. Sold about 1500hive for cub 3 weeks ago. That's a bitter pill to swallow. I am still keeping my hopes up. Cub to the moon (soon)

Well done with the cub! Bravo for the energy and good luck with your goals!
A simple beginner Q for you or for anyone that wishes to help me:
How do I swap some tokens I have into Hive using leodex?
TY

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Seems we've broken through the floor. At least CUB is not going anywhere which is a major victory for such a high-inflation coin.

Hive top 10, I agree.

Hive top 3, I agree. After i watched the Blocktrades Interview, im more bullish on it. I made a little mistake, or better i made nothing. I was thinking before all the spikes "other alts into more hive?" -- " na, i have enough" :)

That how we become fomo feelings right? :D

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William Wallace level of writing in the middle of the post, good stuff. 'Hive kid' not a good nick, you're actually an investment blogger?... that has to be a strange feeling

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