Give Me An Anti Heroine

in Ladies of Hive12 days ago

Ladies of Hive asked two questions this week - one, about our favourite female characters in books or films, and secondly, whether we prefer a house with or without a garden.

Whilst the garden question seems perfect for a Hive chic who runs the Hive Garden community, I feel like you know that about me. Of course I can't live without a garden, although sometimes I think just living in a forest without having to tend a freaking garden might be nice. Dream garden? Go out and pick bananas and mangoes from the trees, and mushrooms - nothing I have to cultivate. Still, a lot of my creative energy goes into my garden, and I can't imagine not having that outlet. Even if I lived in an apartment or a caravan I'd find a way to grow something - basil on a windowsill, spring onions poked into a pot.

As for heroines, one think you might not know about me is how much I loathe Jane Eyre. This is blasphemy for an English teacher, apparently, and I'm not allowed to utter it out aloud, lest I find myself with daggers in my back. Don't give me a 'heroine' that's always agonising and self sacrificing. She's not strong, she just endures. I can't stand female characters that spend so much time brooding and moralising - give me someone raw and apolegetic. Such internal debates are so dull. There's also a sense she's good because she's suffered trauma, something I also absolutely loathed about Jude from A Little Life - vomit.

I don't like a polite anti heroine - I want someone decidedly unproper and unneat. I'd rather a woman who sets fire to the building, thanks very much, even if it appears fucked up on the surface. Give me a woman with scars. Give me a woman who doesn't sit in her cage moaning about it - give me someone who'll cut off her right up to get out of there and doesn't care about what people think.

Give me a woman that isn't beautiful. Even asking Midjourney for an ugly anti heroine was problematic. A woman can't be ugly, can she, even if she's scarred, because how could we possibly connect with an old woman, an ugly woman, a disfigured woman?

So this question has to be more about flawed woman, to me. Woman who take life by the horns and give society the middle finger. Loudly and unapolegtically. Woman that make us feel uncomfortable because they challenge us.

Give me Medea.

Honestly, Medea's the only woman I can say I liked in literature - sure, she killed her kids but hey, she wasn't afraid to take action against a husband who took her for a fool. She absolutely refuses to sit down and take it and totally defies what society suggests should be a woman.

Medea is a heroine because she breaks every rule about what a woman (and especially a mother) “should” be. She’s raw, ruthless, and unapologetic in her pursuit of justice (or vengeance) in a world that has betrayed her utterly. Unlike traditional heroines who suffer silently or seek forgiveness, Medea claims her power through fury and refuses to be a victim. Her agency is radical, her decisions absolutely autonomous, and even though what she does is horrific, she utterly fucks the patriachy with her rage and defiance. She forces us to confront uncomfortable truths. Yes, she's terrifying, but she's utterly unforgettable.

Of course woman like this never truly win, in the same way woman find it hard to win unless they take on male traits.

Look at Lady Macbeth - she's not afraid to be ambitious, and though she doesn't go through with the murder herself and ends up killing herself because she can't cope with her guilt and responsibility for what her husband does. For her to act, she has to stop herself feeling womanly at all - no compassion, no regret, only ruthlessness and coldness. Her struggle to maintain this is what makes her so awesome. The image of her constantly trying to wash the blood of her hands is an enduring and unforgettable scene. There's always this criticism of Macbeth being 'pussy whipped' which I think is worth looking at too. They were very much a partnership and it was Macbeth's own weaknesses that led to him listen to his wife in the first place. He knew what it was like to murder someone on the battlefield, and she didn't, so there's always more sympathy for her, a woman who dared to dream, then the bloodiest of Shakespearean kings.

There's one female character in a little known YA novel called Mortal Engines. Hester is gorgeous precisely because she's scarred. She's a survivor of a violent attack in her childhood and carries her anger and grief in a tough exterior. She literally has a scar on her face which defies the whole concept of Disney heroines of exceptional beauty. I loved her because she's so raw and unpolished, and refuses to be a victim, but she's also strong because of her pain and how she's had to survive.

It's these female characters I like - strong and bloodied yet compassionate, the Furiosas, the Lady Macbeths and the Medeas.

You go girls.

I wish you every success, and to end your lives in peace, with a garden.

Both of these images were created in Midjourney. I've been creating a few AI videos which are simultaneously amazing me and annoying me at the same time. Please question everything you see on the internet, people. We are living in strange times.

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But what of female villains? And are they just the villain because of the perspective of the narrator? Because they antagonise and torment?

The best (and most memorable) female villain I've ever read is in a Jacqueline Carey trilogy. The first book in the series is called Kushiel's Dart.

It is written in the first person, from the perspective of a courtesan / assassin, and the villain, Melisandre is one of the most vile, contemptuous, scheming and ruthless women I've experienced in literature.

Heartless, unrelenting. Probably a lot of male traits in the characters behaviour. It is historical fiction set among an alternate history around the war of the roses, full of intrigue and war, and politics, but it is also entirely fiction and given the protagonist's occupation, it is also visceral, uncomfortable, and constantly visiting the hedonistic pleasures of its vast cast. I'm not making a recommendation, its probably more of a warning, still to this day, Melisandre is such a powerful, brutal character.

Yes! I think that's what I'm trying to say. I remember the villains better, probably because they don't fit the stereotype of what woman 'should' be.

A lot of people read Lady Macbeth as the villain, but they don't look at her motivation, circumstance or indeed history, where woman had little power except their voice.

They are the characters that stick with you, because they are defiantly outside what is expected.

Game of Thrones has a few of those as well.

Game of Thrones has a few of those as well.

Particularly in the text. The show was trash compared to the text. I still remember feeling absolute hatred and vitriol for one of the characters, but then, by the end of the third? book, understanding why they behaved the way they were, and through their experiences, felt empathy.

I don't want to spoil for any casual readers of your comments section, but a little character. I think you know who I'm talking about.

In terms of other villains, I like when the lines aren't entirely clear at all. One of my favourite TV shows is Babylon 5. The amount of character development that occurs is unfathomable for something that's "just a tv show", and your opinions of characters swings throughout the show, based on their behaviour and interactions. A case can be made for everyone and each of their perspectives.

It has such incredible writing. While the VFX do not hold up today, I've recently started a rewatch (with my friend) - and she, as someone who has never seen it or heard of it prior, is absolutely already reacting in the way I first did when watching it, for all its twists and turns.

I've always wanted to watch B5.... Currently nearly out of shows so maybe I'll add to the list.

Good characters are complex!

Do it! Add it to the list. If you need DVDs, I WILL mail them to you. (But you'll have to mail them back!)

What is this thing of which you speak, a player of DVD? I am not sure what is DVD, is it from another time?

They're of the current time. The thing of the past time, I believe, is MAIL.

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These are interesting points you bring up for reflection. I applaud them without a doubt!